Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Newbie Gear Help
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boonie |
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Dreamer |
So don't sweat it too much. Get what you can afford and build your supply each time you go. Start with your tent/hammock. If you get a used one, put a fresh coat of water proof spray on it. For 1 person, get a 2 person tent. For 2, get a 3 or 4 person tent. Next is your pack. I now have an awesome CCS pack. I began with garbage bags stuffed under my seat! And then I got a garage sale pack. It's easy to pick something more than adequate up for 75 bucks on marketplace. I like a 70 liter. Sleeping bag - whatever brand you get, I'd get a 20 degree for the summer and 0 degree for early spring or fall. You'll need a mini cook stove. Walmart cheapo's do the trick. Rain gear. Pillow. Med kit (include finger nail clippers). Fishing gear if you fish. Shoes. One pair to get wet and one to keep dry. A pan to cook in and kitchenware to eat with. A knife. Clothes (Fancy stuff nice, but not necessary. I would get a pair or two of wool socks and pants other than blue jeans that dry quick. I bring two pairs of everything, including what I wear in.). If you can afford to rent a kevlar canoe, that's great. If not, pick up a cheap canoe for $150 from marketplace and build your own portage pads for your shoulders. You'll need paddles and a life preserver too. I hauled a 90 pound canoe up to Iron Lake on a gorgeous trip just 8 or 9 years ago. I now own 2 kevlars. If you have nothing, it can be pretty pricey to get all top quality gear immediately. Of course, if money is no object, go for it! |
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Churst |
My main question is, what are the necessities of gear and approximately how much is it going to run me? I will be going with a group that has gone before so all of the shared equipment will be provided. I’m looking for help and recommendations of what personal gear I’ll need to buy. Any help and tips are appreciated. Thanks in advance! |
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soundguy0918 |
Footwear - search the forums for guidance here. Wet foot with amphibious paddling shoes or waterproof hiking boots...$100-200. But you can certainly manage with an old pair of sneakers that you don't mind getting wet. Socks - Smartwool and Polypropylene Liners...$40 per set and you'll want two. These will keep your feet warm no matter what footwear you choose. Raingear - if you don't already have a quality rain jacket, you can find advice on the boards. I take a NorthFace waterproof shell and rain pants I bought off Amazon. A disposable poncho isn't enough. If you are really on a budget check your local used clothing shop. You'll want a synthetic fleece or wool sweater if you don't have one. A lot of campers take nylon pants with zip off legs ("convertible" pants) but they aren't a necessity. You can rent sleeping bags and thermarests from the outfitters (if your trip partners don't have extras) or you can buy used ones on FB Marketplace for a good bargain. Check the outfitters' websites for their recommended "what to bring" lists. Most of it is already in your closet. Have a great trip! |
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Blatz |
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arnesr |
Try to stick to synthetic clothes, they dry fast compared to cotton which soaks up water. If you are wet, you will be cold. You really only need 2-3 changes of clothes and one hooded sweatshirt and rain suit. Crocs, some people love em, some hate em. Despite their looks, I find them to be the near perfect camp and fishing shoe. They don't soak up any water so they dry off fast and they provide some cushion. A sandal may work too if it has some toe protection. Bring another pair of shoes or boots for portaging. I prefer button down LONG sleeve shirts, or LONG sleeve fishing/swimming type shirts. The LONG sleeves reduce the amount of sunscreen and bug spray needed. Likewise, I don't pack shorts for the same reasons. I have been the newbie with sunburned knees, not fun. I usually pack two hats, something with a wide brim, think Indiana Jones, but a bucket or straw hat also works to keep the sun/rain off your ears. I also bring a baseball hat, which I wear some days. If the weather is forecast to be really cold, I bring a winter hat. Don't forget to pack a lightweight belt and sunglasses(polarized if fishing). |
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Bjfinnegan |
Sierra - Online has a wide selection, but so do the stores at times. You'll find a lot of Klymit sleeping pads, dehydrated meals, sun-shirts, smart wool socks, sleeping bags, ENO hammocks, and small odds/ends. Costco Next - Klymit brand is available on discount. They also carry cheap hammocks. Outlet Malls - North Face and Columbia can be had at various outlet malls if any are nearby. A lot is specifically made for those stores, but sometimes there are nicer items available. REI/Backcountry/Campmor - Browse the outlet sections or wait for the upcoming spring or memorial day sales. Focus on the personal essentials already mentioned. Wool socks, pants, shirts, rain coat & pants, headlamp, sleeping bag, sleeping pad, pillow, chair, and drybags. You should be able to rent or rely on shared for most everything else. |
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plmn |
I think others covered the basics pretty well. Wool socks, good fitting footwear, lightweight clothing that dries quickly, sun and bug and rain protection. I love the pants that convert into shorts, though they have limited sizes available. For bugs Permethrin and Picaridin make for a lot less stink and mess than Deet. Rent a sleeping bag and pack and air mattress if you need to. Decent sunglasses that are comfortable to wear all day and a hat that covers your ears and neck. A waterproof floating bag for your phone and any other personal items. This is probably obvious for a canoe trip, but get into physical shape for it. You don't necessarily need a dedicated training regimen, but you should at least be able to easily walk several miles and have some upper body fitness, particularly your shoulders and core. I spent quite a bit of money on my wife and kids last year to ensure their first time was as enjoyable as possible. I was only partially successful. Everybody had a good time but only one is going back with me this year. The others still prefer car camping. |
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alpinebrule |
If you do find yourself being a BWCA regular get a good personal light weight paddle. Just consider the number of strokes you will be making and a few ounces less weight makes a difference. It will be an investment, but I am still using a paddle I bought almost 50 years ago. |
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jcavenagh |
And like pretty much everyone else says, Don't wear cotton. |
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Pinetree |
Yes people talk about going synthetic to stay dry. I for 50 years stuck with jeans. Why? More versatile and around a campfire your synthetic will be full of fire burns from sparks etc.. Raingear-all depends time of year, Shoulder season you need better quality. I like rubber 14-18 inch aprox. boots -Lacrosse. There is some off neoprenes work good. Goretex hiking boots-no in my opinion you will be going over the top and yes goretex keeeps moisture out until you go over,but once wet they hold moisture in for a very long time. Cheap pair of tennis shoes around camp. Yes if it is July or August maybe wet foot. You said your going with veterans,well there is your best source of info. |
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bobbernumber3 |
Churst: "... I will be going with a group that has gone before..." Spend a couple evenings with your group leader to review plans, expectations, gear, etc. He/she will provide valueable insight to your questions. |
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ockycamper |
The second year we rented canoes and some miscellaneous gear. AFter that we brought all our own gear except for the canoes. What we did was after that first trip we "de-briefed". What worked and what didn't. Every year since we have done the same. Now 16 years in we have as good or better gear then the outfitters we use. For a newbie, first time, find an outfitter where you want to enter and have them do a full outfitting deal. You won't regret it. |
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Blatz |
Churst: "Thanks for all the excellent info. This will hone the first of many trips so i don’t mind spending a bit more for quality gear. I already have a super light weight hiking backpack and i was thinking of buying a hammock. I really like all the clothing recommendations for sure! Thanks!"Regarding your backpack. Sometimes Hiking backpacks with frames can be awkward in canoes |
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bwcadan |
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ockycamper |
bwcadan: "For $15.00 more or less, take a bug whacker for each tent. travel for it should include a plastic bag to keep it dry. Also, store in tent in that bag. When using in tent, come at mosquitoes from under them. No eyes under their wings. Best "cheap" investment I ever spent for trips." Or go in September |
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Tony |
Here is a basic gear list from our planning section on this forum you may not need all the stuff and there is some group gear in that list. If you're going to use a hammock for camping that's a whole new rabbit hole and may require a another thread on the forum. Tony |
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MarshallPrime |
Leatherman Another Pocket Knife Camp chair that folds up small Canoe Seat Crocs as a camp shoe (love them) and some sort of hiking sandal with a closed safe toe like Keens. Boots if you prefer. Nylon hiking pants with legs that are removeable Good HeadLamp Small foldable camp saw Good Fishing gear (if you fish) Good Sunglasses Bug net (ive only used it on like 3 out of 17 trips but on those 3, it would have been pretty miserable without it) just my 2 cents based on 17 trips |